Beth Sarim

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  So a JW can date an unbelieving person...

  by silentbuddha in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  but the entire congregation is not to be informed or mark the person.

  the only repercussions are that the individual who is aware of it can decide to "mark" them and not go to the local club or bar with the individual, but they are still obligated to go door to door in the ministry with them, and even speak to them at the kn as if nothing is wrong and not feel obligated to tell anyone else?

  this is crazy.. so they are also basically saying that a person can carry on a romantic (but none sexual) relationship with an unbeliever and still go out in service and participate in meetings?

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  Beth Sarim

  Its all about the politics.

  And how much the elders or,,, elderettes cant stand you.
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  Why the term "disfellowshipped " was removed

  by raymond frantz in

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  2. experiences

  https://youtu.be/ags07jlopcy?si=g9ra1jqksuuauyax.

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  Beth Sarim

  "Disfellowshipped" was probably only was removed for "legal reasons"" of course,,as usual.

  But,, those who are "removed from the congregations" are treated the same way as disassociated. With the same result of full on shunning to ensue.

  But yeah,,"disfellowshipping" was removed for legal reasons. In light of the Norway developments & because of legal ramifications,,,as always.
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  August WT: DF'ing renamed "Removed." AKA: GB re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.

  august watchtower has finally been leaked.

  disfellowshipping?

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  Beth Sarim

  This is one aspect the Borg employs so efficiently.

  They hold loved ones and family captive,, so the ones who feel like leaving,,held hostage.. They cant leave.

  As Road to nowhere said. You see?
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  August WT: DF'ing renamed "Removed." AKA: GB re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.

  august watchtower has finally been leaked.

  disfellowshipping?

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  Beth Sarim

  The old-school JWs will toe the line & continue with shunning dissenters.

  Same outcome.

  But,,with all the pimos out there,,the Borg has to be careful what they say & do.

  They must consider this.,too.
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  August WT: DF'ing renamed "Removed." AKA: GB re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.

  august watchtower has finally been leaked.

  disfellowshipping?

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  Beth Sarim

  The Borgs aim or ulterior motive is to shift blame from themselves putting any kind of "punitive" action on the victims,,,,,ur I mean followers.

  To make it look like the $heeples did it to themselves,,,left on their own accord and its a result of their actions. Rather than other way around.

  Of course with the same result. Ostracizing.

  eg) what happened in Bulgaria in the 1990s with the blood policy as an example. As someone was talking about recently somewhere. To make it look like someone disassociated on their own doing. By accepting a blood transfusion.
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  August WT: DF'ing renamed "Removed." AKA: GB re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.

  august watchtower has finally been leaked.

  disfellowshipping?

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  Beth Sarim

  "The two witnesses rule".

  Possibly the biggest one of the 3 most damaging policies of the Borg. Which can never go away!!!

  Up there with the blood doctrine & shunning policy.

  These 3 can never go away
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  So a JW can date an unbelieving person...

  by silentbuddha in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  but the entire congregation is not to be informed or mark the person.

  the only repercussions are that the individual who is aware of it can decide to "mark" them and not go to the local club or bar with the individual, but they are still obligated to go door to door in the ministry with them, and even speak to them at the kn as if nothing is wrong and not feel obligated to tell anyone else?

  this is crazy.. so they are also basically saying that a person can carry on a romantic (but none sexual) relationship with an unbeliever and still go out in service and participate in meetings?

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  Beth Sarim

  The ulterior motive behind the Borg not wanting its members to not date/marry non jws is,,, the Borg needs the craziness us vs. them mentality to continue. And the like-mindednes to resume.

  Its always loyalty,loyalty & unity ,unity & unity & the donations$$$$ keep rolling in.

  They cant have any diversions.

  Any jw breaking the mold is dealt with the threat of being kicked out or labelled as "bad".

  
  
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  2024-08-August-SPANISH-Edition!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is the spanish edition of the 2024-08-august watchtower if anybody wants it.. .

  https://pdfhost.io/v/gleqyxbh._w2408s .

  grandpa!.

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  Beth Sarim

  Thanks always Atlantis!!
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  Watchtower August leak: details from reddit user

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  from reddit.. a summary of changes: .

  we are all sinners, so we have to be reasonable how we punish sinners.

  if elders and congregation do not quickly help someone come to be reinstated they would be imitating satan the devil, not jehovah (yes that actually is what is said in the tagalog version in translation!

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  Beth Sarim

  I can speak from experience & as a homeowner.

  Weeds,,,are a forever problem. They always come back. Notorious.

  
  
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  The "Baby Boomers" are starting to die off, and the effects

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

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  i was born in 1964, so, i was 10 when the buildup to 1975 was happening (and watched the subsequent failure of that).then, when i was a teenager, i got to see the fallour of the big apostacy events in the 1980s.during all of this, i was told by my parents and by people of my parents' peer group that "this old system won't last much longer, and won't the new system be great!

  "it is now 2024. i am going to be 60 years old in a few months.

  over half a century.my mom died two months after her 80th birthday last year, after suffering for years of chronic poor health (some of it brought on by a very sedentary lifestyle, but also plagued by emotional and mental issues and family drama which did not help overall.

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  Beth Sarim

  ""Its easier to fool people rather than to convince them they've been fooled.""

  Mark Twain.

  That's why they hang on.